By David Ettinger
An Astute Question
In a recent blog, “From Jesus to You: You Are Mine Forever,” I asserted that once believers are saved, they cannot be “snatched away” by Satan. To support this claim, I cited four Bible passages: John 5:24; John 10:28-29; John 14:2-3; and Matthew 28:20.

My conclusion was definitively “once saved, always saved.” I believe Scripture clearly teaches that believers cannot lose their salvation.
After reading my blog, an astute reader stated: “Good food for thought. Especially John 10:28-29. I’m not sure how that works with those who have turned away? It’s a hard one to understand for me.” Her sentiments are on target. I have known quite a few people who have tragically repudiated the Lord, some who profoundly influenced my early Christian walk. I struggled to understand their actions, wondering, Is it possible these folks were never saved to begin with?
Salvation Verses
Let’s look at a few “salvation verses” and determine a common denominator:
- Acts 16:31: “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved …”
- Romans 10:9: “If you declare with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”
- Ephesians 2:8: “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God.”

In the first two instances, there is an emphasis on the word “believe.” In the Greek, the word is pistis, and implies a deep conviction. In other words, belief in Christ – that He is God; the Messiah; and the Savior of souls – goes well beyond head knowledge or emotion. To pistis in the Lord Jesus Christ is to believe with every fiber of your being – even if you can’t quite grasp it all – that Jesus is precisely all He claims to be.
The third “salvation verse,” Ephesians 2:8, tells us that the saving of souls is the Lord’s work. Yes, the believer must have faith, but even this faith is a work of God (a big topic for another day). Salvation, in other words, is God’s doing from top to bottom. If He has saved you, He will preserve you.
But what about those who have renounced Christ?
The Key Passage
The key to understanding those who to us appeared to be saved but have seemingly “lost” their salvation is Hebrews 6:4-6:
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
The Greek word for “taste” is geuo and refers to something which is consciously experienced, whether temporarily or permanently. A good example is Hebrews 2:9 where we are told that Jesus “tasted” death for all people. This “tasting” was obviously consciously experienced, but it was not permanent; Jesus rose from the dead.
The Church has always had in its midst those who both emotionally and intellectually “tasted,” or “experienced,” Christ. They understood the basic tenets of the Gospel. They engaged in sweet fellowship with other church-goers. They read their Bibles and derived much benefit from doing so. They sang the great hymns with gusto and delight. They “shared in the Holy Spirit,” i.e., witnessed great things being done, things which defied human explanation.

However, “experiencing” is not the same as “receiving.” As per Romans 10:9, they declared with their mouths that “Jesus is Lord,” but they did not believe in their hearts “God raised him from the dead.” And this was their fatal flaw. This is what the apostle Paul was referring to when he wrote, “By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain” (1 Corinthians 15:2). These people have “experienced” Jesus, but did not truly believe in Him, hence they never received Him.
Because of this, Hebrews 6:6 tells us it is impossible for them “to be brought back to repentance.” This seems awfully harsh; why? The answer is that those who have “tasted” of Jesus’ goodness ultimately rejected Him with a full understanding of what they rejected and having experienced what a relationship with Christ could be like.
Tragically, knowing and experiencing all this, they came to the opposite conclusion: essentially that Jesus is not God, not the Messiah, not the Savior of souls, and, in fact, deserving of His death on the cross. It is a total repudiation of Christ because they did so while being equipped in every way possible – intellectually, experientially, and emotionally. Once an individual has blackened his heart to all of this, he has surrendered all hopes of being saved.
The Bottom Line
Jesus said, “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 7:21). I believe Hebrews 6:4-6 explains the kind of people Jesus is referring to. They were never saved to begin with, hence their repudiation of Christ.
For those in Christ, however, salvation is secure; it can never be lost. If you are truly Christ’s, you need never doubt God’s promises regarding your eternal destiny!
Victors' Corner
June 1, 2021
Nothing can separate us from the live of God. If we are saved, not even Satan himself can ‘unsave’ us. But we can repudiate our salvation, if we come to the point of denying all we believe about Christ.
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dettinger47
June 1, 2021
Well said, Victor. Thank you.
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Bruce Cooper
June 1, 2021
Hi David, interesting topic and it is one that I have wrestled with over the years. I understand your logic about having tasted etc and having some understanding on what you are walking away from. There are other Scripture verses that also come to mind such as Matt 24:13, which we also find in Rev 2:11 and Rev 3:11, inferring that holding fast is a prerequisite. Heb 6:4-6 talks about having shared in the Holy Spirit, which would appear to me to be being born again. The reason why someone who believes is not condemned is because they ARE IN Christ Jesus (Rom 8:1) but if you remove yourself from Him, that cannot be undone. I WOULD LIKE TO AGREE WITH YOU but I think it is possible to lose your salvation. As long as we keep our faith, God will keep us but if we walk away, I don’t think He will violate our will. Rom 8:37-39 is in play as long as we keep the faith (Heb 3:11) like Paul did (2 Tim 4:7). BUT, I could be wrong.
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dettinger47
June 1, 2021
I agree, Bruce. This is a very difficult topic. Thanks for you insights on this. Quite complicated indeed!
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craig
June 1, 2021
Well explained, David. This is a diffiult topic indeed, and one which I have seen believers go to to loggerheads over.
As a young believer still discovering biblical truth I had a dim view of the “once saved, always saved” doctrine because in my experience I saw it thrown around by folks who appeared to be rank hypocrites, and yet were sure their ticket was punched and they were heaven bound because of having made a public profession and having been baptized, despite living a self-centered and self-serving lifestyle.
I jumped to the conclusion that it was a doctrine that promoted and protected hyposcrisy and nothing more. That, combined with the all-to-common experince of seeing others who had appeared to be genuine believers walk away from the faith, ensured it would take me a while to get a better grasp on what I now consider to be the truth.
The biblical truth as I understand it now exalts Christ and glorifies Him far more than my previous understanding, seems to more fully conform to a plain reading of the scriptures, and truly allows me to trust and rest in Him, and indeed love Him far more than I could before.
God bless! Sorry for the tome.
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dettinger47
June 2, 2021
Very well said, Craig. You well summed up the conflicting thoughts of many Christians.
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Bruce Cooper
June 1, 2021
Sorry David, but there is one additional Scripture verse I would like you to consider: “He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not BLOT OUT his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.” (Revelation 3:5) Note that in order to have one’s name in the Book of Life, one would have to be a true believer, and if he overcomes (endures to the end, keeps the faith), his name is NOT blotted out of the Book of Life. Your thoughts?
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dettinger47
June 1, 2021
Great verse indeed.
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heavensreef
June 1, 2021
I always thought that those who turned away had not truly been saved in the first place. You do come to a JESUS moment of who sits on the throne of your life. Do you love JESUS with all your heart, soul and mind and confess HIM before others? So talk is cheap really and it is what we treasure more than anything in our hearts that matters. GOD wants our hearts above all. Thanks for those scripture references too!
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dettinger47
June 1, 2021
“I always thought that those who turned away had not truly been saved in the first place.” That’s my understanding, as well, Maxine. Bruce, though, has a few different thoughts (in the comments here). They’re worth reading!
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heavensreef
June 1, 2021
I did…..all food for thought yes?!
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seekingdivineperspective
June 2, 2021
I can’t imagine that anyone in their right mind would knowingly turn their back on Christ, having truly experienced His love. I guess that’s a good argument for the “never-saved-in-the-first-place” position.
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dettinger47
June 2, 2021
I agree!
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Blue Collar Theologian
June 1, 2021
In regards to this, I hold to the perseverance of the saints in which God will keep His people from falling away, He will help them endure to the end. If we can lose our salvation then we have to be responsible for continually saving ourselves. We obey God because we love Him not because we are afraid of being sent to hell. Those who fall away were never saved. If we are to keep our faith to keep salvation, that’s works based and we are trusting in ourselves and not relying and depending on God alone to help us see us through to the day of completion/salvation. The verses in Hebrews and Revelation aren’t easy verses I can see why people say you can lose your salvation; however, it goes against the Person and Work of God to lose someone who is in His Hand.
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dettinger47
June 1, 2021
Excellent insights, Mandy, and so well stated. Hey, no fair when the comments are better than the blog itself!
But seriously, you did a great job expressing this truth in a brief but logical manner. Much thanks, Mandy.
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Tom
June 1, 2021
Thanks for this post, David. I’m with you. I believe Scripture teaches eternal security. If a person is genuinely reborn in Christ, can they become “unborn”? Since no believer is perfect, at what point does a believer lose salvation? There are Scriptures that speak of apostasy but those refer to the disingenuous Judas tares. It occurs to me that people who believe a Christian can lose their salvation are relying on their good works/obedience as the basis of their salvation, although they will deny it.
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dettinger47
June 1, 2021
Excellent points, Tom. Thanks for these keen insights!
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vicklea
June 2, 2021
Good exposition, David. One of our pastors once told us that no one can take us out of the Father’s hand, but we can choose to jump our ourselves. Bad choice, but it is available to us if we choose earthly pleasures over the eternal promises.
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dettinger47
June 2, 2021
Yes, and so sadly, far too many people choose to jump. Thanks for sharing, Vickie.
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seekingdivineperspective
June 2, 2021
James (5:19-20) makes it sound like a believer can “wander from the faith” and be brought back. Then there’s Proverbs 22:6 that implies a child raised in the faith will not depart from it, but people have pointed out that in between childhood and “old” there may be some wandering. (Franklin Graham comes to mind.) The answer for me is 1.) Stay close to Jesus, and He won’t let you go. And 2.) keep praying for the prodigal. ❤
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dettinger47
June 2, 2021
Amen!
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Lisa Beth
June 3, 2021
Well David, I’m certainly the minority here, if not the loner. After searching the scriptures, I no longer believe “once saved, always saved”. Outlining the scriptures would make my comment a post here.
The Old Testament reveals much of God’s heart, often decreeing promises fulfilled for those whose hearts strive to walk right “…but if you turn away…(destruction). “…if you forsake Him, He will forsake you.”
Well, people will say, that’s the old covenant. But does God’s character change? Is He not the same God?
Portraying Himself as the “true vine” and we as the branches, why would He declare, “If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are thrown into the fire and burned.”
Obviously, those “branches” were part of Christ, they were attached to the vine but did not “remain”.
That Paul admonishes us to “work out your salvation with fear and trembling” is antithetical to the smugness of ‘once saved, always saved’.
Why the warnings about falling away? Why the warnings about befriending the world? James says those who do become an enemy of God. He’s talking to believers.
Why the dire warnings to the churches in Revelation? What’s the threat if we’re eternally secure?
We are the ‘bride of Christ’ but adultery breaks the binds of marriage. If we willfully turn away, has God somehow changed who He is and is powerless to act?
I dont want to take any more space here. The mantra “once saved, always saved” has emphasized verses, downplayed others, and interpreted scripture to fit that mold.
“If we disown Him, He will disown us.” (NT)
I hope I’m not ruffling feathers by commenting – sorry it’s so long! Thank you brother.
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dettinger47
June 3, 2021
Thank you, Lisa Beth … and don’t worry about taking up space! Well said, and definitely welcome comments.
On my Facebook page, a pastor by the name of Doug Lay made these statements. If you’re so inclined, you are certainly welcome to comment.
“I believe that once you understand the nature of salvation it is clear that it can’t be lost. Jesus said ye must be born again. Salvation isn’t a possession it is a conversion. Alina mentioned Hebrews 3:12 & 13 which in context is speaking of unbelevers. They never entered into God’s rest verse 11. They had an evil heart of unbelief verse 12. They could not enter into God’s rest because of unbelief, verse 18 & 19. Hebrews 6 is very clearly a hypothetical saying that if you could lose it it would be impossible to be renewed, verse 6. The point of Hebrews 6 is God’s faithfullness verses 13 – 18. Salvation is the circumcision made without hands and the operation of God Col 2:11 & 12. Once born again you can never be unborn.”
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Lisa Beth
June 3, 2021
Thank you David for your kind response and noteworthy comment. I used to say that too, “you can’t be unborn”. But I just dont see the depths of God’s relationship with us totally encapsulated in that. We also, so to speak, the Bride of Christ and while “the two shall become one” that transformation is broken by adultery.
Well, I wont go on but I appreciate your post and response and…your welcoming heart toward differing views!
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dettinger47
June 3, 2021
As far as I’m concerned, Lisa Beth, you’re the “real deal” as far as walking with the Lord goes, therefore, your comments are much welcomed … and yes, are very legitimate. On my Facebook page, one of my “friends” from Israel, and a very, very strong believer, is on the same page as you. There are indeed many verses which make this far from a black-and-white issue. I think all of your — and her — points are valid.
On another note, regarding the Church as being the bride of Christ, a few months ago I wrote this blog: “Israel is God’s Bride, Not the Church.” Here’s the link if you are interested:
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Lisa Beth
June 3, 2021
Thank you so much brother.
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